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Awesome to see you back :)

Oh wow - it's great to see you back. Best of luck, and certainly looking forward to see interesting things from you :)

OLPC could hardly have made a better choice than you :)
Looking forward to meet you in UY. We'll have lots to talk about.
- Bert -

Why not the others?

Nice to hear more about what's happening for XO-3 :)

I'm a bit surprised about the points 1 and 2 though... I understand you say it's not definitive yet and that is just to test the idea but it sounds like there is some (considered) strong binding with Google. If the goal is to consider the portability of Sugar to Tablet/Web OS, why only focus on Google solutions and not have a look at WebOS, Jolicloud, or even Windows 7?

Maybe OLPC prefers getting closer to Google and base the future on one of their solution (if possible). Why not, but I also thought the plan for OLPC and Sugar was to stay free on not depend on closed technologies/software.

Re: Why not the others?

These are just the first four explorations, although I will admit that they are roughly priority-ordered. OLPC does have a commitment to openness, both for pedagogical reasons as well as for practical reasons relating to our global deployments and price sensitivity. Royalty and licensing considerations rule out things like Windows 8 or Windows Phone (we need tablet support, which isn't present at an acceptable level in Windows 7).

Jolicloud is cloud-based (it's in the name!) which doesn't play well with out disconnected deployments.

We have looked at MeeGo, but it's business future is deeply uncertain at the moment.

Our current software stack is based on Fedora. That's obviously getting a lot of attention as well, since we've got a large investment in it already.

WebOS is something which I haven't yet looked at seriously. If you want to make a technical argument about its advantages, I'd be willing to listen. I don't think it's open, and I'm not ever sure a third party can license it from HP. Those are two big strikes against it.

Re: Why not the others?

My question was really about considering only Google's tablet OS and not any the other's (HP's, Nokia's, Apple's, RIM's, ...). However, as you saw by yourself, I'm not very good at mentionning what these other tablet OS are ;)

I don't have any specific argument to make for WebOS apart from the fact that the press I've read about it was always good. Not sure either if you could licence it and how much that would cost you. But isn't it the same for Google? If the porting to Android is successful and it is deciced to turn Sugar into a set of Android apps, you'll have to get a license from Google to run Android on every XO-3, won't you ?

I agree that MeeGo could have been an interesting option, being a free OS you can build upon just as you do now with Fedora. But its future is indeed uncertain :-/ Would there be other free tablet OS around ?

Re: Why not the others?

I'm always interested in pointers to new directions.

Android licensing is discussed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)#Licensing

No license required as long as you don't use the android trademark or Google's closed-source apps.

Re: Why not the others?

Ok, you just convinced me that Android deserve a first position in your investigation points - I'm curious to see what will come out of it.
I did not know about the licensing conditions, so sorry for the uneducated questions and thanks for your discussion :-)

And I saw Joi Ito is joining the MIT Media Lab. How does does your job relate to them and how does it relate to Sugar Labs?

I'm hoping OLPC will be a bit more open about licensing hardware manufacturers than in the past - It would be cool to have dozens of different manufacturers making OLPC approved slates and OLPC remixes of Android touchpads.

More manufacturers should help bring prices down and allow more options for deployment scenarios - allowing some darwinian competition to push forward improvements in deployment.

(If you can get mesh networking that works made a standard feature in Android pads that would be a cool too)

OLPC is a Media Lab spinoff, and I'm currently supporting a Media Labs/Tufts literacy project. But no direct relationship.

OLPC did not actually own the schematics and PCBs for its designs in the past, which was the primary impediment to licensing. However, Peru has recently started its own in-country manufacturing (http://blog.laptop.org/2011/04/11/perus-new-xo-asembly-lines/) and OLPC is negotiating ownership of the XO-3 schematics.

cool to hear you are with OLPC! It sounds like a win-win to me!

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